Sunday, November 30, 2008
Peter Flamming - Post 4
As he hiked, Bryson never came to truly enjoy the hiking. An undertaking, such as the AT, requires not only steadfast determination (which Bryson lacked) but a liking of what you were doing. Through the constant drivel about how hard the trail was and how miserable he was, Bryson showed that he simply did not fully possess the drive to win, which prevented him from sticking it out even after he grew more comfortable with the trail.
Hiking the entire trail, however, was never his real goal. His real reasons for hiking were to witness the American wilds for himself before they were gone, to get fit, and to write his documentary. For Bryson: done, done, and done.
Bryson is an esteemed novelist, and therefore he recognizes good literature. Probably somewhere before Roanoke, where Bryson skipped the trail, Bryson realized that so far all his goals were going smoothly. Bryson especially realized that he already had lots of things to write about in his book. Having his goals well on the way to being completed I don’t think that Bryson had any implications against skipping some of the trail, as it wasn't one of his primary goals or even one he intended to finish. I believe that if the book required more information then Bryson would have trekked onward to Virginia instead hitting the road.
Will Middour - Post 4
The ending was foreshadowed throughout the book. It was made clear that they probably werent going to be able to complete the trail in chapter five when they abondoned the trail for a while for some modern day comforts. Hints like this were given all throughout the book.
Cari Heinz Post 4
Jack Abbott Post 4
From the very beginning Bryson set out with a goal to push himself physically and mentally. His task was simply to walk the entire AP Trail, and even though he didnt complete his goal of finished the trail, he accomplished what he set out to do. The relationships and the eye opening experiences is worth more to him in the long run than actually finishing the trail. I think that even thouogh he didnt complete the entire trial he will satisfied with the part he did complete, and take all his experiences away to make himself a better person.
Monday, November 24, 2008
Sarah Holt, Post #4
From the start Bryson was thinking of the length of the trip and how hard it was truly going to be. But soon after getting started the trip turned into a long tedious walk. After getting to the top of Clingman’s Dome, Katz and Bryson decided that they must go to Gatlinburg; this was their first big adventure back to civilization. It was here that they realized how hard the trip was going to be. While shopping for bootlaces, Bryson saw a full length map of the trail (4 feet total) and discovered that they only had covered 2 inches. At this point they both realized they weren’t going to walk to Maine. The map provided a scale of how extensive the trail truly was. The mental picture of the trip was a very long, hard walk; even more than they had already done. In chapter 9, Bryson wrote about some of the people who walked all the way to Maine and how it took a special person to make the whole trip. However, another way they could hike the trail would be to do it in sections. Because “The Appalachian Trail Conference doesn’t recognize speed records,” Bryson and Katz can complete the trail as they wish; if over the next 5 years or even 50 years.
Bryson and Katz discovered that though they had walked half a million steps, they didn’t need to walk the other 4.5 million to get the gist of hiking the whole Appalachian Trail. Bryson was thinking about how long of a trail it was and how long it would take. I believe that hiking the trail was all mental. Anyone can do it; they have to have the mind set that they are going to complete the trail during the duration of the experience-not just at some parts.
Janine Marill Post 4
However, the reality that Bryson was not going to hike the entire trail didn’t sink in until Bryson decided to skip the chunk of the trail between Roanoke and Virginia. I found Bryson’s decision to skip this portion of the disappointing because he had invested so much hope in hiking the entire trail.
The worst letdown occurred when Bryson and Katz separate after having hiked over 500 miles together. I had gotten used to reading about Bryson and Katz hiking as a dynamic pair, and their separation was further reminder that they had failed on their original plan to hike the entire trail.
When Bryson described his hikes without Katz, I knew that the adventure wasn’t the same without Katz. Bryson confessed that hiking in small day hikes was wimpy, and I had to agree; day hikes were not part of his original goal.
Therefore, I was happy when Bryson and Katz got back together for the hike in Maine. However, the hike in Maine was challenging in several ways. Katz borrowed Bryson’s money to buy alcohol, even though he was a recovering alcoholic. Fortunately, Bryson was able to forgive Katz for drinking, and the pair was able to enjoy a portion of their hike in Maine.
Initially, I was disappointed that Bryson and Katz didn’t hike the entire trail. I came to realize that the partnership that existed between Bryson and Katz was an accomplishment in itself, and they set an example of sharing and compromise that anyone can learn from.
post 4!!!
I believe that when Bryson sets out, his main goal wasn’t to just hike the WHOLE trail. I think that he wanted to not only discover himself but to grab a new understanding of nature. I think that Bryson wanted to prove to himself that he could hike at least some of the trail. I think that Bryson very much accomplished this. He hiked over 870 miles, some of which he hiked by himself. I don’t think that he thought that he could even hike that many miles, much less in the wilderness. In chapter 21, Bryson says that he has gained a profound respect for nature and the wilderness. And that he finally understood the colossal scale of the world. I think that Bryson now has a new out look on life, one that he would only gain by walking on the trail.
Raymond Johnson, Final Post
Even though he didnt accomplish the feat of a true thru-hiker, i think Bryson accomplished his goal. Setting off from the visitor's center in chapter 3, Bryson may have had the goal of completing the entire trail. but i think later on, in about chapter 8, he begins to realize that this goal is impossible and instead begins to appreciate the amount that he has managed to complete. Bryson's goal seemed to be on of learning how to survive in nature and experience the thrill of nature's dangers that he elaborately illustrates in chapter 2. I think Bryson more than accomplished his goal, and when he looks back on his accomplishments in chapter 21 he realizes how amazing the fact that he had hiked 870 miles truly is. Also, in his hindsight, he says that "I gained a profound respect for nature and the benign dark power of the woods". I think this quote shows that he had accomplished the goal he set for himself.
Sunday, November 23, 2008
David Dixon, Final Post
My hopes for Bryson and his personal goals were not parallel. I thought he could finish the trail but, even in hiking less than half of the trail, he accomplished much. As he states in the closing chapter, “I got a great deal else from the experience.” The things that Bryson learned and the experiences he had define him. As a result, he accomplished his goals: he lost weight and found a new friend, a new lifestyle, a new America.
Nick Murphy- - - Post 3
But another thing Bryson has learned is what a great hiking partner Katz was once he leaves. It just becomes another classic case of “you don’t truly know the value of what you have until you’ve lost it.” Bryson comes to realize that Katz was the reason for himself being able to get through most parts of the trip and begins to miss his company. Bryson is able to find another to accompany him along the AT in the absence of Katz, but he knows that Katz was really the better man for the job, despite his unfavorable past.
So what has Bryson learned? He has learned that he has become a stronger person along the AT, though some of the strength was discovered only because of Katz. Bryson knows now that the trail has changed them both, that they are well on their way toward redemption in their lives. They have wiped their slates clean by going on this trip and it will serve them well as they return to the society they escaped from.
Saturday, November 22, 2008
Matthew Guzdial, Post Four
From the very beginning, it was clear Bryson and Katz would never complete the Appalachian Trail. Though this was foreshadowed numerous times, the most obvious and first time was within chapter one, when Bryson a large proportion of the chapter explaining all the difficulties of the trail in hilarious detail. This original foreshadowing, despite the humor within it, almost serves as an excuse from the author for his later deviance from the original plan.
But despite the fact that Bryson never finishes hiking the Appalachian Trail, he does accomplish what he set out to do. Though Joy has already mentioned most of the reasons the author listed within chapter one, there is still the need for Bryson to write the book. Though this starts off as just another excuse, a reason among a half dozen other rationalizations, our narrator slowly begins to take more interest in this purpose for his grand hiking adventure. The most obvious example of this is in the way that Bryson describes people throughout the book. Starting with Wes Wisson, the man who originally drives Bryson and Katz to the trail, we are told only that he is friendly and wears a baseball cap. However, by the end of the novel by which time Bryson has begun to really take things in for preparation of the novel he is yet to write we meet Joan Bishop, the owner of the Boarding-house in which Bryson and Katz spend the last night of their adventure, and spend a good paragraph learning about the woman and her mannerisms.
Joy Glaze, Post 4
Though Bryson does not actually complete the Appalachian Trail, he still accomplishes what he set out to do. In the first chapter, Bryson decides to hike the AT for three main reasons: to get fit, reacquaint himself with the nature of America (before all the trees are gone), and learn how to fend for himself in the wilderness. Bryson undoubtedly achieves these goals. He describes the way his family is impressed with the new slimmer Dad. Walking mile upon mile, which would previously have been very taxing on Bryson, becomes as customary as breathing. Bryson also becomes very familiar with the wilderness of the trial. He is able to experience mountains, rivers, and many species of trees and animals. Lastly, Bryson becomes very independent. He realizes that he does not need all the accommodations of town. He is able to survive on the bare minimum, most of which is provided by the trail. Bryson’s success on the Appalachian Trial is not measured by the miles he walks but by the accomplishments he has made while walking. By that scale, Bryson is victorious.
Thursday, November 20, 2008
Walk in the Woods Post #4
Cari Heinz Comments 5 & 6
I agree with Peter. Bryson has learned how amazing the AT is. This is truely an accomplishment for Bryson to have come so far. I also agree that Bryson has learned a lesson, that its not all about finishing the trail, but what you have yearned along the way. Bryson has seen nature through a whole new eye and gained so much from it.
Nick Murphy---comments 3 & 4
Some of the shorter asides can be tuned out by the reader, but some of the longer rants should be completely removed from the story altogether, for example, the one described by Philip about the Forest Service. Yes, it does last for seven pages and is also entirely unnecessary. The things Bryson said were irrelevant to the scene and too far removed from what was actually happening at that point in time. Not to mention that, interestingly enough, Philip also pointed out that the claims Bryson made about the Forest Service were false. It’s Fascinating that Bryson would go off onto such a wild speech without certainty that his facts were straight. Of course, maybe he too was beginning to succumb to the difficulty of the trail and just needed something to complain about.
Wednesday, November 19, 2008
Matthew Guzdial, Comments 5 & 6
I completely agree with Kaila’s comment about Bryson’s experience upon the trail allowing him to better enjoy the little things. Until he has to do without, Bryson does not fully appreciate such things as being clean, or eating what and where he likes. Though he has been hiking before in Europe, as Bryson points out himself at the end of chapter sixteen, Europe’s plentiful small towns and villages allowed the author to experience all the comforts of home. It is only now, upon the Appalachian Trail where everything natural is so carefully separated from the urban that Bryson truly learns to do without.
I agree with Janine’s statement that Bryson has learned a lot about companionship while hiking with Katz, possibly even more then when the two hiked together previously in England, but I disagree with her assumption that, without Katz, Bryson is unable to appreciate natural beauty. Throughout chapter sixteen and seventeen, in which Bryson is hiking alone there are several instances of him still commenting on the beautiful scenes and views available to him upon the trail. However, it is true that Bryson does mention these views less, and in fewer details. But, instead of Katz being impetus, which allowed Bryson to appreciate these views, I think it was because of Katz that Bryson was forced to appreciate the views earlier in the trail for longer period of times. While waiting for his generally slower companion, Bryson often had nothing to comment upon but the landscape, and so that is much of what he commented on.
Janine Marill Comments 5 and 6
Peter explains that Bryson felt released from the obligation of hiking the entire Appalachian Trail after he comprehended the size and magnitude of the trail. I agree that Bryson gained a better understanding of the trail after seeing the map in Gatlinburg. After Bryson and Katz part ways, Bryson tackles the trail in a more reasonable way; he breaks it into bits and pieces, and takes day trips. However, I believe that if Bryson had enough will to hike the entire trail, he would have persisted and hiked it from beginning to end. The map in Gatlinburg definitely decreased Bryson’s determination to hike the entire trail.
Will Middour - Comments 5 and 6
I disagree with Cari because I don't believe that Bryson was disappointed in the trail being more urbanized. The distractions of the real world didnt follow him on the trail. Bryson gained a respect for nature and his frienfship with Katz.
Kaila Brown comment 5 and 6
I disagree with Phil's post. I don't think that it is really a change that Bryson has lost track of time. Who wouldn't? When one is walking the trail, time becomes a distant thing. Even Bryson admits to this. He said that you were on a cycle. Sleep, eat, hike, sleep. Bryson said that it never ended. that was just the way that it was. there was no need to keep track of times or dates because they weren't trying to hike the trail in a set time.
Sarah Holt Comments 5&6
Naomi made a great point when she stated that Bryson has learned to appreciate the little things in life. During the duration of the trail, Bryson thinks. This time alone gives an opportunity to think about all the little things in his life such as 3 meals a day, etc.
Joy Glaze, Comments 5 & 6
I also agree with Janine’s statement that Bryson does not realize how valuable Katz’s company is until it is gone. As I stated in my post, Bryson and Katz had their rough spots, and Bryson was definitely annoyed with Katz at some points, especially toward the beginning. I predict, however, that Bryson will be much more thankful for Katz’s companionship once the two are reunited.
Tuesday, November 18, 2008
Peter Flamming - Post 3
Bryson also learned that there is still much wilderness in the Appalachians, despite the facts and declining numbers. Bryson experienced nature at its most primal and rugged, and experienced America at its most ancient and majestic level. Despite all his tid-bits about declining populations of animals, trees, and forests in general, he was still hiking through millions of acres of pure, untouched woodland.
Peter Flamming - Comments 5 and 6
I disagree with David when he states that Bryson learned the value of simplicity and even began to appreciate it. The simplicity of hiking on the At is more of a forced survival tactic rather that a value he chose to accept. I do not doubt that after the AT was over, Bryson would go back to his old sophisticated lifestyle. On the AT, you go simple, or you die. Bryson had to accept simplicity because it was only path that led to survival.
Naomi Robert - Comments 5 and 6
I disagree with Cari when she said that Bryson has passion and love for the AT. In this case, I think it is important to remember that Bryson was really writing for a purpose – for a book. In some parts of the novel, Bryson makes the reader think that he is enamored with nature by providing detailed, instructive asides about the environment. In reality, however, I think the author is just a comedian with a well-researched topic and a desire to be more of a “nature” man. Also, Bryson clearly dislikes many sections of the AT, especially his unpleasant hike in Pennsylvania, criticizing the state’s bad maps, poorly planned trails, and ugly scenery, among other things.
David Dixon, Comments Five and Six
I agree with Ford as well. Bryson has truly learned the spirit of an AT hiker. Whether he realizes it or not, the changes in Bryson became apparent when he is juxtaposed against tourists and casual hikers. He has gained experience and knowledge and finds himself a different person than when he started.
Raymond Johnson Comments 4 and 5
In Kaila's post she also noted how the simple life allowed Bryson to have an appreciation for smaller things. I certainly agree with this, because as she said Bryson was even excited by a dingy motel that had creaky doors and stained bedsheets. This is an example of how Bryson's appreciation of things in everday life has increased because of the hard conditions he endured along the AT in his time with Katz.
I also liked Matt's point about the difference between American and European views. In the story Bryson realizes how reliant he is on technological commodities, and by walking the trail he comes to understand that that the European view of nature, and how much we can actually acomplish by just setting goals and trying to obtain them.
Monday, November 17, 2008
Sarah Holt Post 3
The length of the journey gives Bryson the chance to live life by completing it, not just by how long it takes. The expedition is a time of growth. It is a trip to plod on through. As he stated, the AT “was designed for pushing on, ever on…” In the midst of the trip, Bryson cannot just stop, he has to keep going on to complete the mission he set out to accomplish. The trip has taught him how to take challenges head on.
The AT is a world of its own. In chapter 14, Bryson talks about the trail being “infinite and entire.” It is all he experiences day after day, after day. The trip is a great one and it is very tiring. When Bryson comes off the trail in chapter 9, he learns how ugly the real world truly is. This trip is a learning experience for Bryson’s personal growth; mentally and physically. He learns how man has changed the environment to best fit their own needs.
Janine Marill Post 3
Katz provides Bryson with companionship, which is especially valuable during monotonous areas of the trail. Bryson and Katz are able to commiserate during shared experiences. They are both annoyed by Mary Ellen, a fellow hiker that they are stuck with for several days. When Bryson thinks that a bear is near their camp, Katz’s nonchalant attitude calms Bryson. Bryson and Katz share meals, experiences, and the trail itself. They entertain each other; Bryson was humored by Katz’s experience with the married woman Beulah, and her angry husband.
Bryson doesn’t realize how much he valued Katz until he tries hiking the trail without him. Bryson tries to hike parts of the trail by himself, but hiking feels silly and futile without Katz. Bryson understands how much he appreciated Katz when he goes to Harper’s Ferry alone. When Bryson discusses his visit to Harper’s Ferry in the Shenandoah, he says he was “trying to pretend with all my heart that this is where I wanted to be.” When Bryson and Katz hiked the Shenandoah together, Bryson was better able to admire its natural beauty. Bryson realizes that he valued Katz’s companionship because they were able to share experiences together, and Katz’s absence is painful when Bryson has new trail experiences without him.
David Dixon, Post Three
This becomes apparent when he is removed from his utopian wilderness. Overwhelmed by the multitude of commercialism, Bryson finds himself longing to continue his journey.
At the beginning of the book, Bryson was hiking the trail for himself, but with obvious apprehensions. By chapter 14, Bryson is hiking the trail for enjoyment, returning from a month-long leave with his family. Despite his experience of what he calls a “low point,” and an out of place feeling, Bryson persists, continuing without companionship.
Bryson finds an irreplaceable need for hiking the trail, attempting again and again to find something to suffice. He finally gets back on the trail, only to find a different experience waiting. He misses the camaraderie he found in Katz, but quickly finds a new partner in Bill Abdu. He is not the same, but Bryson is not hiking for the companionship. Bryson finds in nature the comfort and peace of simplicity. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once said, “In the woods, we return to reason and faith.”
kaila brown post 3
Philip Creviston - POST 3
In chapter 12 for example they run into John Connolly and ask him what day it is. On the AT you don’t need to know what day or time it is you just need to make it to the next camp site so you can sleep and get up and hike again the next morning. You have one mission and that is to get to where you are going to stop so you can go back home and start a normal life again. So Bryson has no need for time so I think that he has learned that even in this world of hurry, you can get away from it all by just slowing down and not letting time dictate your life.
Raymond Johnson, Post 3
Cari Heinz Post 3
Joy Glaze, Post 3
After a break, Bryson decides to continue hiking on his own until Katz is able to rejoin him for the last portion of the trail. This decision is not Bryson’s best, as he soon realizes. Bryson is not only lonely but also rather on edge about being in the woods alone. In chapter 14, Bryson is at the top of Piney Mountain when he hears a twig snap. He is so frightened that he runs for his life, only to realize that the noise came from a deer.
In chapter 17, When Bryson learns that Abdu will be joining him for some day hikes in New Hampshire, he is quite relieved. Bryson is apprehensive about taking on the state’s White Mountains by himself, and the company of Abdu proves to be very beneficial. If Bryson had been hiking alone when he began to suffer from hypothermia, he might not have made it to the mountain’s base alive. Bryson has certainly learned the significance of camaraderie through his travels on the Appalachian Trail.
Naomi Robert - Post 3
For example, in Chapter 16, Bill Bryson continues on his pleasant Vermont stretch. He enjoys the simple pleasures of the lunch his wife packed and the peaceful view. Bryson begins to think about how much Katz would enjoy these moments – making it clear that he misses Katz’ company. Bryson even talks to himself about his lunch contents, probably because he does not have his usual food-lover partner to discuss such things with. Although Bryson takes up another hiking partner, Bill Abdu, for a while, the close-knit bond simply is not the same. Whereas with Katz, Bryson would probably feel comfortable telling him about his bad state, when hiking with Dr. Bill, he feels too embarrassed to be honest about his hypothermia. Basically, Bryson learns how valuable Katz really is as a hiking partner. While hiking alone offers great serenity, the company of others is very important, especially on the rough AT.
Walk In The Woods Post Three
Matthew Guzdial, Post Three
Bryson has learned many things thus far in the story, sharing many of them with us as he does. One of the most important things he has learned, and revealed to the reader within the book is the differences between how Europeans and Americans view nature. Though the contrasting nature between the two cultures comes up several times throughout the book the most obvious time is at the end of Chapter sixteen. After going on a quite lengthy aside about the Army Corps of Engineers, Bryson compares hiking in America to hiking in Luxemburg. Bryson is dismayed by the way in which America, seemingly almost embarrassed by its nature, does its best to hide it away. This came to Bryson only upon actually hiking the Appalachian Trail as before, though he lived in America, it is upon the trail that he gets his clearest site of our shamefulness towards nature. Bryson comments, “seldom would it occur to anyone on either side that people and nature could coexist to their mutual benefit.” This, I feel, is sadly true of Americans who, unlike the rest of the industrial world, seeks to either sanctify nature in some far off place, or destroy it.
Friday, November 14, 2008
Walk in the Woods Post # 3
Wednesday, November 12, 2008
Philip Creviston comments 3 & 4
I also agree with Janine’s post. Like what Nick said, they can be amusing and informing but he just rambles on a lot more than he needs to be. Bryson does have a good point in chapter 8 about evolution; I think that it needs to be taught in all schools
Kaila Brown comment 3 and 4
I agree with Joy’s post. I never thought about how Bryson’s tangents on flowers make you connect with the nature around him. I just thought that they were pretty or cool. I never was really thankful for them. But it was a good point to make. Maybe Bryson is trying to have the reader think about nature and what is gone.
Peter Flamming - Comments 3 and 4
I also agree with Kaila when she talked about how the asides help you feel as though you are walking in the woods and thinking to yourself and imagining your setting. Walking out in the great unknown wilderness is something few of us have truly experienced and I think Bryson does his best to help us get a better grasp of the sheer magnitude and ferocity of the trail.
Sarah Holt Comments 3 et 4
I also agree with David when he said that the “asides detract from the overall effect of the book in their sheer quantity.” The asides are fun and interesting-to a certain extent. The tidbits are not supposed to lager on for up to 5 pages. They should just be little snippets of information that add to the story and make the story go on.
Cari Heinz Comments 3 & 4
I agree with Joy. The information is very intersesting and it allows the reader to feel more a part of the story and understand that this trail is like none other. When Bryson includes the piece about the fungus, but you can never find it anymore, it is deffinatly to let the reader know that things arent the same anymore. The trail is much changed, and not for the better. The reader then indeed feels compelled to be greatfull and appreciate nature a little bit more.
Will Middour - Comments 3 and 4
I agree with Raymonds post that says that Bryson’s side stories disrupt the flow of the story but I also think that the book needs them so that it wouldn’t be boring. Raymond also says that Bryson’s rants are obnoxious and I think that though they may be a little long and annoying at some times that they add a lot to the book and make it more interesting.
Janine Marill Comments 3 and 4
I agree with Philip; some of Katz’s rants were irritating. I don’t feel as strongly as Phillip; I found some of the factual information useful and interesting. However, Bryson provided way too much information about most of his historical and trail facts, and he makes too many digressions. Clearly, Bryson has chosen quantity over quality, and many of his rants are fairly boring. Also, if the logging companies are well-regulated, as Phillip says, then Bryson needed to provide more accurate information about environmental issues.
David Dixon, Comments 3 and 4
I agree with Joy’s post. The asides allow the reader to feel as if he were actually on the Appalachian Trail. The environmental issues raised are brought to life by the playful tone of the narrative and the narrative is supported by the informational asides. In this mutualistic relationship, the novel is enhanced.
Nick Murphy---Post Two
I found this digression to be an amusing one as I have seen the movie version of Deliverance, yet I don’t believe it really adds anything to the story itself. The average book would have mentioned Deliverance to make a point about his thoughts at the time when the two comrades were standing in the motel parking lot. The aside’s overall value is not very high, though it does not prove to be fatal to the storyline being told at the time.
On the other hand, however, this brief description of Deliverance puts the situation of the characters into perspective for readers while also presenting quite a realistic occurrence: most people relate frightening memories/thoughts to situations in which they are by themselves. This offers readers a chance to relate to Bryson as he is showing a very common behavior of the average Joe. Of course it’s also nice because Bryson attempts to fill in readers about the storyline of Deliverance with which he is assuming his audience is unfamiliar.
So, when examining this quick departure from the main plot, I conclude that it is indeed amusing, yet unnecessary towards the overall plot of the story.
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
Naomi Robert - Comments 3 and 4
I think that Peter made a very good point about how the asides help to increase the reader’s suspense. However, I personally found myself wanting to skim these boring tidbits of information because I was too drawn into the storyline. Also, I think that the book would be much more enjoyable if the reader didn’t have to grasp a hold on the reality of what was going on outside of the AT, but instead get lost in nature…
Raymond Johnson Comments 3 and 4
I agree with Cari's assertion that Bryson uses the tidbits to help speak about how much the AT has changed. In Bryson's view he obviously feels that the quality of the trail has gone down because of modernization. This was one of the instances when I actually did enjoy the fact that Bryson used an aside to convey this emotion. I eagerly anticipate the continued story of Bryson's journey.
Matthew Guzdial, comments 3 and 4
I can understand where Naomi is coming from with her assertion that the repeated economical rambles by Bryson are depressing. However, I don’t think the author meant them to be so. Take for example the long aside occurring at the beginning of chapter ten concerning the destruction of the American chestnut. Though the topic is a dark one, Bryson ends the aside by stating “there wasn’t a day in the Appalachian woods when I didn’t give passing thanks for what there was,” a clear indication of the author’s attempt to show the lighter side of everything.
I agree with Ford’s statement about how intriguing some of the deviations by Bryson can be. The relation of the different thru-hikers was one of my favorite sections in these last few chapters. However, I disagree that the asides transition badly back to the story of Bryson and Katz. At the end of each of these asides, or in the middle depending on how lengthy, Bryson always spends a few sentences explaining his view on the information he just related, the jump from third to first person therefore cradled by continuing the same subject through both. A good example of this is actually directly after the description of the thru-hikers in chapter nine when Bryson spends a decent sized paragraph discussing Katz and his views on why skipping bits of the trail was okay, even when compared to such persevering souls as the overweight Woodrow.
Monday, November 10, 2008
Joy Glaze, Comments 3 & 4
I agree with Janine when she says that the cultural references are interesting, but unlike Janine I do not think that the irrelevance of this information detracts from the story. I like the variety that these stories to provide. Reading the book is more interesting when more information is provided than just the narrative of life on the trail.
Janine Marill Post 2
However, some of the cultural facts and references were more interesting than the environmental information. In chapter 8, Katz mentions an article he saw in the Nashville Tennessean that grabs his interest. The article explained that the state legislature was in the process of banning evolution from science curriculums. Katz gives his strong negative opinion of people who support forbidding evolution education. He proceeds to describe the history of the evolution issue in Tennessee.
Bryson wove this issue into the story because he had a strong visceral reaction to it. Bryson could not understand why anyone wouldn’t teach evolution in schools. To some extent, Bryson’s opinion of the issue gives the reader some insight into Bryson’s beliefs. However, Bryson has already been outspoken about his values throughout the book, and discussing this issue is unnecessary, and does not relate in any way to the hike. Bryson could have mentioned the article without going into a long history of the issue of evolution education in Tennessee. Bryson’s snide comments and rambling about an irrelevant issue detract from the story.
Peter Flamming Post 2
Bryson also uses the little interruptions to detail the setting and to build up suspense. For example, when Bryson at Katz reached Hiawassee, Bryson goes off on a tangent where he describes north Georgia people, culture, and setting. This really gives your imagination a place to start when Bryson and Katz saunter into Hiawassee. When Bryson and Katz get lost in the blizzard in chapter 6, Bryson goes rambling about how much AT maps suck while the reader is frustrated with their suspense relief being withheld. Bryson slides back into his story rather smoothly after each rant and the facts are more interesting than irritating on the whole. While Bryson adds a great deal of humor, he wisely inserts little tidbit mini-stories that add a good variety of things, such as suspense and setting description, to his story.
Cari Heinz Post 2
The side stories show what is important to Bryson. Although hes writing to an audience and wants everything to be as good as possible, he wants to show what is interesting to him and how he see's the trail.
Raymond Johnson Post 2
Philip Creviston - POST 2
In chapter 4, Bryson talks about how the Forest Service makes roads for the logging companies to tear down trees. First off this goes on for also 7 pages which is ridiculous and second this not true at all. The forestry companies may tear down trees for logging but they must replant them. My dad worked auditing the big forestry companies (the ones that Bryson talks about) to make sure they torn down trees the right way and to make sure that they replanted them, he never found anyone in violation of any code. There may be fewer trees now but it is not from the logging companies, they must operate under very strict guidelines and if they don’t they must face dire consequences. So therefore, Bryson is not only taking away from the book itself, he is also providing inaccurate facts.
kaila brown post 2
As I can imagine the AT must be beautiful. Its one of those places that you don’t really understand unto you have hiked it. I think that Bryson goes off on these tangents to make it feel like we are right there with him, so that we can paint a picture in our minds. For example, in the beginning of Chapter 6, Bryson talks about the mental aspect of walking on the trial. He says that time has no meaning and that the world is huge but you (the hiker) only knows this. Bryson says that after awhile walking the trail becomes like second nature…natural. That walking for hours and miles doesn’t affect you like it did before. Bryson explains how you are in mobile Zen mode. I think that Bryson adds this to help the reader “feel” like what it is like to walk the trail. Not the physical pain but the mental cleansing ness. This tangent helps the reader really know what walking the trail is like. Because we cannot physically hike the trail, Bryson gives us the mental aspect of the AT. It puts us right into Bryson’s shoes, furthering the enjoyment of the narrative.
kaila brown post 2
As I can imagine the AT must be beautiful. Its one of those places that you don’t really understand unto you have hiked it. I think that Bryson goes off on these tangents to make it feel like we are right there with him, so that we can paint a picture in our minds. For example, in the beginning of Chapter 6, Bryson talks about the mental aspect of walking on the trial. He says that time has no meaning and that the world is huge but you (the hiker) only knows this. Bryson says that after awhile walking the trail becomes like second nature…natural. That walking for hours and miles doesn’t affect you like it did before. Bryson explains how you are in mobile Zen mode. I think that Bryson adds this to help the reader “feel” like what it is like to walk the trail. Not the physical pain but the mental cleansing ness. This tangent helps the reader really know what walking the trail is like. Because we cannot physically hike the trail, Bryson gives us the mental aspect of the AT. It puts us right into Bryson’s shoes, furthering the enjoyment of the narrative.
Sarah Holt Post 2
The history of the National Parks Bryson describes in chapter 8 shows how much the trails have changed over the years. National Parks, such as The Great Smokey Mountains National Park in Gatlinburg, have changed significantly. Bryson discusses the way the parks now have gift shops and food supplies right out side the mountains. The area outside of the mountains has grown to become more popular than the mountains themselves. The way Bryson and Katz are hiking (checking into motels, eating burgers, etc.) is completely different than the way “true hiking” used to be. Without all the restaurants and shops outside, Bryson and Katz would have to feed themselves for another night.
These facts show how the world and the people living in it have grown up over the years. The way America has built to fit the wants and needs of Americans has changed significantly. Its fun to read the histories and wonder what life would be like if the world hadn’t grown so drastically.
Matthew Guzdial: Post 2
When analyzing any literary work, it is important to identify the author’s purpose. In his novel, Bryson takes intermittent breaks in the storyline to speak directly to his audience in order to give information concerning the history or background information relating to whatever it is that he and Katz are currently doing, or areas they are reaching. These asides are each included for a separate reason, though generally as an attempt by the author to allow the audience better to understand the majesty and varied nature of the Appalachian Trail. A good example of this type of side note occurs in chapter seven when Bryson spends a large amount of time to describe the rich plant and animal life of the Smoky Mountains, information that his audience would otherwise not have, and which would therefore decrease their understanding of his awe of the Smokies, such as when Bryson calls them “A Very Eden.”
However, this is the not the only reason for the author’s asides, such as back in chapter five when Bryson spends a short period explaining the 1970 novel, Deliverance, by James Dickey. This aside, unlike the generally sarcastic yet serious tone of the environmental ones, is entirely placed there for comedic effect. Bryson’s descriptions of the book description of the “demented backwoodsmen” leaves the audience wondering if perhaps Bryson himself will run into one of these homicidal rednecks and adds further poignancy in the motel scene with the silent woman.
Will Middour - Post 2
One example in particular is in chapter 6 when Bryson and Katz are stuck in a snow storm and can't decide what to do. In the middle of the storm Bryson gets out a map of the trail and he describes for about 3 or 4 pages about how maps of the AT are useless. He explains that none of the maps are realistic and that they all leave off important details. I think that Bryson was just frustrated with the situation because most people would not get mad about maps. Even if his map was'nt realistic it still provided him with some idea of his position on the AT. This informational tidbit added to the story because it provided valuable information that it is hard to navigate the trail but his rant lasted way to long. AT maps could have been described in just a few sentences.
Sunday, November 9, 2008
David Dixon, Post Two
For a whole five pages in chapter seven, Bryson delineates the various inhabitants of the Appalachian wilderness and points out the faults of the National Park Service. While all of this is fascinating, the glorious extent to which every facet of every detail is described quickly becomes excessive.
Almost the entirety of chapter ten is an aside, detailing the conditions of the Appalachian Mountains during the inception of the United States. When the endless stream of facts becomes almost unbearable, Bryson graciously terminates it, calling it “enough science for one chapter.” Evidently not even the author could allow himself to drone on about inconsequentialities for an entire chapter.
Bryson’s invitations to environmental protection are clear and not unwarranted, yet the message would still come across if it were not present in every chapter.
Naomi Robert - Post Two
In chapter 10, Bryson spends a considerably long amount of time telling the history of plant cultivation in America. Since the days of the Lewis and Clark expedition, Americans were always trying to find new plants, name them, and find beneficial uses for them. He talks about how these struggles of various botanists led to the extinction of many plant species, in a sarcastic, bitter tone. The history and ecology lesson diverts from the story, right when the hikers have set off into a new part of their journey. By itself, the information would probably be very motivational. But within the novel, the passage only serves to depress the reader about how horrible the stupid human race has become.
Saturday, November 8, 2008
Joy Glaze, Post Two
One particularly interesting description is that of the eradication of the American chestnut caused by the Asian fungus called Endothia parasitica. Though this tangent covers almost four pages in chapter ten, the information is fascinating. The description of the humongous trees compels the reader to go immediately into the woods to experience the species’ enormity for him/herself. Unfortunately, to encounter these giant trees is no longer possible because of the disastrous extinction. Bryson most likely included this information to make people aware of the destruction that can be caused by importing foreign wildlife species into areas where they are not meant to exist. Many people, including myself, would not think twice about the absence of the American chestnut unless the deficiency personally affected them. This information also causes the reader to be thankful for the nature and tree species that are still left in the states. Bryson skillfully causes the reader to acquire a connection to the nature which he is experiencing while on the trail.
Friday, November 7, 2008
Nick Murphy- - Comments 1 & 2
I agree with Kaila when she says that Katz agrees to go along on Bryson’s trip so that they can once again become friends. Katz may be attempting to finesse Bryson out of asking for his 600$ back. What drug wouldn’t want to escape having to pay someone back? Also, Ford mentioned how Katz began criticizing the difficulty of the trip along the Appalachian Trail. This leads me back to my first comment when I state that Bryson could be setting himself up for a formidable situation when he takes Katz with him.
Thursday, November 6, 2008
Walk in the Woods Post # 2
Do these asides enhance the structure of the narrative or detract from it?
Select any one of the "lessons." Why do you think Bryson chose to weave that particular "tidbit" into his story?
Be sure to cite the section to which you are referring.
REMINDER:
If your post consists of only a rehash of what has already been said, I have no evidence that you have actually read. You MUST say something new. Find ONE thing to talk about and focus on that! Please don't tell me the story--use examples from the story to make your point.
David Dixon, Comments 1 and 2
I agree with Ford’s post in part; Katz is turning over a new leaf, however, he is attempting to change what he has become after giving up drugs: lazy and fat, but still unhealthy. Katz wishes to become a healthy person, ridding himself of the vices plaguing him.
Nick Murphy- Post One
But despite the two men’s history with each other, they are together here and now on this hiking trip and plan on making things work between them. I believe that Katz went along on this trip because he wanted to clear his head of everything negative that was going on in his life at the time. And what better way to get away from the rest of the world and get some fresh air then on a hiking trip? Katz might see this as an opportunity to start over in his life. He realizes what he has done and that he needs to change, so I believe that he is looking to take some time to reflect in the peaceful atmosphere of the Appalachian Trail.
Of course, Bryson only took Katz along because he could find no one else able to accompany him, so it will be interesting to see how the two of them get along in the later chapters of the book.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008
Janine Marill Comments 1 and 2
I agree with Peter about Katz’s desire to do something meaningful in his life. I think that this idea goes hand-in-hand with the issue of Katz’s self-esteem. It’s Katz’s lack of self-esteem stems from the choices he made in his life, or perhaps Katz’s drug abuse was a symptom of his lack of self-esteem. Either way, Katz has an opportunity to add meaning to his life through exploring nature, and reestablishing a friendship that has fallen by the wayside.
Peter Flamming Comments 1 and 2
I agree with Cari when she says that Katz really needs a partner. Katz is a broken person and I believe he feels the need for companionship in his time of trial. And what better way to bond and feel the true spirit of companionship then to undertake a legendary hike with your old friend. Bryson is understanding and tolerant of Katz and I believe that is just what Katz needed; a true buddy who'll stick with you to the end.
Peter Flamming Post 1
Katz might also have felt as though his past life and doings were insufficient and he felt an urge to do something really great with his life before he dies. In his eyes, he wasn't getting any older and he had to hurry to add a last little bit of excitement and exuberance to his waning life. Katz health was also going downhill and the AT was a potential way to experience true nature before he became unable to. His eating condition, made painfully clear when Bryson took Katz out for doughnuts, would have led to a much swifter death had not Katz gone on the trail.
Philip Creviston comments 1 & 2
I agree with Kaila. She said that Katz wants to get away from his old life of drugs and alcohol which I think is true. He also wants to rekindle his friendship with Bryson that he lost during those years. He pretty much just wants his old life back. Katz thinks that if he can complete this journey he can leave his old life behind him and start a new one with Bryson in it.
Sarah Holt Comments 1&2
I also disagree with David when he says the Katz is a negative person. I don’t believe he is a negative person; rather his attitude and self esteem are negative. He’s views of himself at the moment are not very high. He seems to be very depressed and eating as a result of that. Doing the hike along the AT will hopefully boast his ego and he will view himself in a better light.
Kaila Brown, Comment 1&2
I also agree with David’s post. I think that it is interesting that David made the observation that Katz, overall, is a negative person. This is true. He is anger filled and extremely unbalanced. Any other person under these circumstances would not be able to push through. It is obvious that, technically, even Katz shouldn’t be able to make it. But like David says, the main reason that Katz will be able to hike the trail is because of Bryson.
Will Middour - Comments 1 and 2
Raymong Johnson is correct in his first post but is also wrong. Raymond said that Katz is trying to start a new chapter in his life, but Katz has already started his new life by getting married and getting sober. Katz is going on this trip to help his life like Raymond said but he is not just starting out. Katz has already become sober and his life has been better for a while. He decides to go with Bryson to further benefit his life and to make sure he never goes back to those harmful substances.
Cari Heinz- Comments 1 & 2
I do not agree with Naomi. Though the hiking experience is a way for Katz to escape his shameful ways, it is not for the simple new addiction. Hiking for Katz is starting over. This is his clean slate. By hiking, Katz gets himself away from the drugs and puts himself in a healthy environment no where near his past. For the most part he is away from the alcohol and drugs. The food issue for Katz is like a safty net. It is one addiction he wont likely brake at this point, or plans to at all. Eating is another drug to him. Yes hiking will make Katz feel more healthy, but this is no addiction.
Joy Glaze Comments 1 & 2
I agree with what Cari said about Katz’s need to be close to someone, especially someone from his past, before he was consumed by drugs. It would be natural for Katz to want to find some way to return to the cleaner parts of his past, and Katz’s memories of Europe must seem attractive after all that he has been through. Katz is trying to recreate an environment in which he was happy.
Raymond Johnson Comments 1 and 2
Matthew's point built on what others were saying about how Katz's motivation was a desire to change from his past. I agreed with what Matthew said when he stated that hiking the AT with Bryson served as a goal for Katz. Since his life has drastically changed, it is safe to surmise that he is looking for a sort of direction in it. This difficult trip along thousands of miles of trail will most certainly keep him occupied for a very long time.
Naomi Robert - Comments 1 and 2
I think it is unusual how everyone read so deeply into Katz’s motive for coming. In further reflection on this question, I think that Katz may have wanted to come along simply because he thought of the hike as an adventure! Katz clearly likes to live for thrills and excitement (shown in his partying days), and probably thought such a daunting task would be another way to “live on the edge.”
Matthew Guzdial, Comments One and Two
Naomi Roberts brings up several good points within her post, including Katz’s motivation based on his unfortunate past. However, I disagree with the point she brought up towards the end regarding Katz trying to break his addiction. I believe it is quite clear that Katz never had an inclination to give up his food, purposely bringing a huge number of snickers along with them expressly so that he does not have to go without food. Even if he brought the snickers along entirely for his sugar-dependent condition, this does not explain why he chose to eat the rest of Bryson’s pie at the end of chapter five. Katz had clearly already had enough; the pie was just an example of his seemingly endless gluttony.
Kaila Brown brought up a very good point about Katz’s friendship with Bryson as being one of the things, which motivates him along his hike upon the Appalachian Trail. The importance of their friendship is clearly shown in chapter four in which we learn of how the two men are looking out for each other, Bryson repeatedly trudges back to check on Katz, and Katz picks up anything that Bryson happened to lose or misplace. It is this companionship which keeps not only Katz but both men going.
Tuesday, November 4, 2008
David Dixon, Post One
Katz desires to hike the AT because he wants to become a new person. He may have given up drugs and alcohol, but he is still seen as somewhat of an unhealthy person. His eating habits are undoubtedly harmful, but these are only the roots of his problem. Through his words and actions, we can see that Katz is an overall negative person. Katz wants to fix his bad habits while walking the trail because he believes that the removal from everything will put his life back in order. Only interacting with a handful of people and having only a fraction of the material possessions Katz is used to, it will be interesting to see how he will cope. Whether Katz can survive or not is unknown, but with his latent willpower and encouragement from Bryson, I believe he will make it.